the problem we had with the famous banco delta asia thing not that we did banco delta asia, that was not the problem. it was a lever when once used you couldn't control. and that's where, you know, you really have to look a little carefully at what you're doing. if you can't undo it, if you can no longer use it as a means to affect policy, you better be careful about using it in the first place. so my view is all of the above. we should be using sanctions, we should be talking to the chinese like crazy, we should be doing maybe each some things that i suspect if you believe david sanger were doing some things in iran. i don't know. but i think we need to be active across the board in a sort of all-of-the-above format, and i think diplomatic negotiation is definitely a part of that. >> i would just add one point, a very good question. i had a chance, i just got back from korea and had a chance to talk with most of the advisers of the political candidates. they're all different. i would say each campaign very determined to maintain a strong relationship with the united states. i think